Arch Linux and Gentoo
I had heard so much hype over Arch Linux, so I just had to check it out. Last night, I took the plunge and tried installing it on my secondary desktop.
A couple of things. First of all, it didn't work. I am sure that I installed it correctly, but it wouldn't fully boot (something about VFS syncing, I don't remember). I re-installed it again, and got the same problem. Second, it used this really weird hard drive naming scheme that I've never seen before in Linux. Rather than /dev/hda1, I had /dev/discs/disc0/part1.
Anyway, I figured maybe it was a Kernel problem. There was still hope! I re-installed it a third time, but using kernel 2.4 instead. It worked! I logged in and tried 'startx', but wouldn't ya know it, X wouldn't start (and I know I installed it). But I will say this - it starts up wicked fast. That machine is fairly old. It is 600 MHz with 256 MB of ram, but that thing booted up faster than this machine, partially because I have more running on bootup here, but that definately doesn't account for everything. Props to Arch for being such a quick distro.
Since 2.6 won't boot and I can't live without an X server like in 2.4, I decided to retire Arch Linux.
I had an empty computer just begging for a new distro to be installed...
Why not Gentoo? I had read the docs on it before, and a stage 3 install doesn't require you to compile the base system (which means it won't take 24+ hours to install). So, I'm currently doing a stage 3 install of Gentoo. I'm not finished yet, but I'm sure it will work (and Gentoo also uses the /dev/discs/disc0/part1 scheme; Fedora and Kubuntu didn't).
But I do have to give props to Gentoo for having great documentation. They go over every possible option in great detail, and I'm never questioning why I may have to do a certain task, because the answer is right there in front of me.
I also like that SSH is included on the mini-install disc. I'm able to blog, read the documentation in FF, and install Gentoo at the same time. Life is good :)
A couple of things. First of all, it didn't work. I am sure that I installed it correctly, but it wouldn't fully boot (something about VFS syncing, I don't remember). I re-installed it again, and got the same problem. Second, it used this really weird hard drive naming scheme that I've never seen before in Linux. Rather than /dev/hda1, I had /dev/discs/disc0/part1.
Anyway, I figured maybe it was a Kernel problem. There was still hope! I re-installed it a third time, but using kernel 2.4 instead. It worked! I logged in and tried 'startx', but wouldn't ya know it, X wouldn't start (and I know I installed it). But I will say this - it starts up wicked fast. That machine is fairly old. It is 600 MHz with 256 MB of ram, but that thing booted up faster than this machine, partially because I have more running on bootup here, but that definately doesn't account for everything. Props to Arch for being such a quick distro.
Since 2.6 won't boot and I can't live without an X server like in 2.4, I decided to retire Arch Linux.
I had an empty computer just begging for a new distro to be installed...
Why not Gentoo? I had read the docs on it before, and a stage 3 install doesn't require you to compile the base system (which means it won't take 24+ hours to install). So, I'm currently doing a stage 3 install of Gentoo. I'm not finished yet, but I'm sure it will work (and Gentoo also uses the /dev/discs/disc0/part1 scheme; Fedora and Kubuntu didn't).
But I do have to give props to Gentoo for having great documentation. They go over every possible option in great detail, and I'm never questioning why I may have to do a certain task, because the answer is right there in front of me.
I also like that SSH is included on the mini-install disc. I'm able to blog, read the documentation in FF, and install Gentoo at the same time. Life is good :)
















4 Comments:
At 12/13/2005 11:28:00 PM,
James said…
I'm sorry to hear you gave up on Arch so quickly, it really is a great distro.
Once you get over the initial installation/configuration hump, it really gets much easier to manage. Of course, it's definatly for advanced users who don't mind a little trouble shooting.
One thing I love about Arch (aside from the speed) is the community. The forums and the IRC channel are great, even though most of the help you'll get there is literally from 16 year olds.
Even though Arch uses the funky /dev/discs/ system, the old one works just fine.
Oh, one more thing. Where you using Noodle or Wombat? Noodle is still undergoing heavy testing, you might want to try out the more stable 0.7 (Wombat) release.
And finally, rereading your post, I think I remember getting a similer error last time I tried installing Arch. I believe I had a wrong value in my fstab file.
At 12/14/2005 02:55:00 PM,
Justin said…
Yeah, it's unfortunate that I gave up on Arch so easily, but I have always wanted to try Gentoo, but didn't have an excuse until now. If Gentoo turns out to be a piece of crap (which I don't think it will), I'll try Arch again. If I do, then I'll look in the fstab file.
Also, I was using version 0.7.
At 12/14/2005 04:10:00 PM,
James said…
"If I do [try out Arch again], then I'll look in the fstab file."
Then you'll look at the fstab file? Meaning you had not before?
*cough* *cough*
You do know that those config files are just default templates you NEED to edit, right?
At 12/14/2005 04:15:00 PM,
Justin said…
I looked at it, but didn't change anything because it all looked fine. I meant that I'll make 100% sure that all the values are correct.
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